B-Side Magazine 4/90

Psychedelic Furs – Past Into Present

It takes a brave band to admit their mistakes. It takes a braver band to admit their mistakes when they fly in the face of commercial success. The Psychedelic Furs have done this and taken is one step further with one step back, one step beaver with Book of Days. After analyzing the artistic errors of their recent work, they returned to an earlier, more tenuous path. Tracks on the new album scream “Psychedelic Furs!” rather than “Hit Single!”

The band was displeased with their efforts just prior to Book of Days. Despite the sales figures that the album’s accessibility allowed, 1987's Midnight to Midnight strayed far from the Furs ‘original vision. This was little wonder in the light of the numerous changes they had gone through, as half the band had been pared away since their eponymous 1980 debut, leaving a core of guitarist John Ashton and the Butler brothers, vocalist Richard and bassist Tim. Finding native London too claustrophobic, they relocated to New York: in five albums they had worked with almost as many producers. They began their turn-around with ‘All That Money Wants’, a new single which appeared on their All of This and Nothing compilation album in 1988. Drummer Vince Ely, who departed after Forever Now, rejoined the Furs, and they returned to London to record with Stephen Street favored by the band for his work with The Smiths “How Soon Is Now.” However the “greatest hits” package was not what the band originally envisioned. They intended to assemble their favorite tracks, regardless of popularity, but bowed to pressure for sales.

Book Of Days marks a homecoming. Co-produced by the Furs with Dave Allen (Chameleons, The Cure) it glints like light through the leaves in a dense forest. Tracks bear an initial resemblance to the Cure album cuts rather than pop singles, but with Richard's smoke and cinders supplanting Robert Smith’s slippery soap-across-a- wet-tub delivery. Complex sounds intertwine. Jem Finer of the Pogues provided the hurdy-gurdy on ‘Shine’, the albums spiraling opener, and a cellist makes “Torch” warmly haunting. The title track hints of hope within the desolation. It is a renewal of all that defines the Psychedelic Furs.

John Ashton joined the band shortly after their inception and had been there ever since. Our conversation, a few days before the US tour, didn’t leave me in stitches. He offered no broad insight into the way of the world or biting remarks tossed in for mere shock value. But he displayed a firm grasp on all aspects of the Psychedelic Furs: what and who they are, ‘their triumphs and pitfalls, their history and their future. He reflected the lyrical outlook of the band, concentrating on personal rather than over-blown, all-encompassing statements.

I noted that Richard decided to take a break to reassess your position after the band came out with Midnight to Midnight. Did the Furs consider breaking up at that time? “No, and I don’t think he took anytime off to reassess the position, either,” replied John. “That's a load of bullshit put out by the record company. We all decided to reassess our position. He was not the only one. Yes, we looked at it and looked at what we’d done. Didn’t like it much and it was time to realize what we were actually good at and what we weren't good at.”

“So what didn’t the band like about Midnight to Midnight?”

“That it took too long and that it was not really what we were about. If you look back, our earlier albums are more of what we're about.” he emphasized. “Didn't really know what we were doing. There was not anything there lyrically that was interesting. There was nothing musically that was interesting. So, we basically just were chasing commercial success in some way, shape or form. And we realized that we weren't doing the right thing.”

I wondered if having the retrospective of All of This and Nothing created a regenerating energy for the band, but John refuted this. “Not really. It didn’t do anything commercially... And it really didn’t turn out what we wanted it to be because we wanted it to be a retrospective of the band, not of our greatest hits, as it were. Or nearest misses,” he dryly comments. “And that’s a thing brought about by the record company. They suggested that we do it. Then when we turned around and gave them the list of our songs, we had a big argument with them because they wanted other songs on it. They wanted the ‘Heaven's’ and the ‘Heartbreak Beat's’ and the ‘Pretty in Pink’s’. That's not really what we wanted to do at that time. That was the beginning. When we realized that we were putting an album together of our favorite music, that's when we really began to sit down and discuss what was good about the band.”

Had the Furs had problems with the record company all along or was it just at that point? “No, that was just one of those things. I just brought that up to illustrate a point. The record companies are all the same. By and large, most bands have to put up with the same sort of thing anyway,” he concluded.

After working out of New York after several years, what was it like to return to London to do an album again? “Very refreshing, very good to get back to the place where we recorded our first two albums and there's a good scene there musically. But it didn’t really have much of an effect on what we were doing,” he pointed out. “There were good facilities there for rehearsing and recording. And it was just nice to be in the same studio that we'd done those earlier albums in with more or less the same sort of band and the same kind of vibe, really.”

Has the return of Vince Ely affected the rest of the band much? “Yeah. It's reaffirmed a musical balance within the band. It means that he will let you in on what he thinks about what's going on musically and it makes it a much more one-on-one kind of situation. We're able to assess our work as we go along as opposed to waiting till we've recorded it and mixed it and toured it and so forth and so on. So it brings it back into focus a little bit, him back in the band. He played on the first three albums and it did make a big difference. The moment he walked back in and started hitting those drums, it was like ‘Hello, old friend.” It was nice to have him back. ”

The Furs worked with a lot of different producers over the years. Have any of them had any particular significant impact on the group? “Well, they all have in some way because they've all been very different. Steve Lillywhite (The Psychedelic Furs, Talk, Talk, Talk) was very important because he was the first producer we worked with at any length and he helped create a certain vibe in the studio for the band, with the band. Todd Rundgren (Forever Now) was totally different to work with. A very interesting character,” he commented. Some have said that he can be very dictatorial in the studio. Did the band find that a problem? “No, I think he’s only dictatorial if you don’t know what you want,” John reasoned. “And at that time, we did, so we were lucky. We didn’t find that side of him at all. Keith Forsey (Mirror Moves) was definitely a very easy going guy to work with... good fun to work with in the studio. And Chris Kimsely (Midnight to Midnight) also was very good to work with, who, unfortunately, he had to deal with not such great songs. So he had a very hard job,” was John's honest reaction.

Has there beenany particular reason that you've kept shifting producers rather than staying with one? “I don’t think there's any hard fast rule, basically. We've shifted around because we've felt like working with different people...working with Dave Allen was also another good experience because it felt like he didn’t really get in the way of what we were doing. And he just made sure it stayed on course,” he praised.

Considering that the band co-produced Book of Days with him, do you foresee a time when the band will take full production duties on? “I don’t know. It's a very difficult to say because you get too precious about what you're doing. You do definitely need someone there to mediate.”

Considering the numerous shifts that you've had in line-ups , producers and also in what you've called home base, would you say that the band thrives on instability? “I guess that's a good way of putting it,” he admitted. “I think we thrive when we're onstage.” Does the band make a conscious effort to remain on the edge or is that just circumstance. “Just circumstances,” John echoed. “I don’t think we really particularly look forward to making any of what we do difficult. Or any more difficult that is really is. It does seem to be true, though, that the band does work better under pressure.”

You wouldn't go bringing in new members or kicking people out just for the sake of variety? “No, we prefer a certain stability,” said John. “Unfortunately, we've not always able or lucky enough to have that. And hence, the line-up changes. People coming and people going. More people going than people coming back into the fold, Vince being one of them. I felt that his return to the band marked a very important phase in the groups’ career, musically speaking. Socially as well.”

Would you say that you, Richard and Tim provide stabilizing forces for the band when everything else has been wavering? “No directly, because there are always other influences and extenuating circumstances which one finds oneself in from time to time. Say, a band member will want to leave because he wants to pursue his own career. We really didn’t have much choice. And we had to find another drummer. Then that drummer we toured with, but found that he wasn’t the right man to go into the studio with. So therefore we then found another drummer who we found great to work with live and we thought he was pretty good to work with in the studio. But it all came to light when Vince returned to the band that he was actually sorely missed. So it’s really six of one, half a dozen to the other. It’s nothing that we ever actually set out to do. The thing that we did set out to do was to get back and be the Psychedelic Furs again as opposed to being a different version. We just wanted to be what we were best at doing."

You made a conscious effort to go back and look at what you had been built on. “Looking at All of This and Nothing really helped because it put our favorite songs onto one album, but we had to make concessions for the record company, unfortunately, later. But it did help to get us all together thinking about where we'd come from and where we'd got to. “You’re happy with where you are now? “Yes, very happy,” he declared. “Definitely a step in the right direction, a footback on the rung. Whereas we felt that the ladder had inadvertently been kicked from beneath us.”

Since all the lyrics are written by Richard and your biography seemed to indicate that a lot of the band reflects his own vision, how do you and the other members make sure that your own views are included? “Well, musically speaking that’s very straight ahead. I play what I play. And if Richard suggests anything else, I will take notice of it. Lyrically, I don’t really involve myself in it too much because it's very difficult to try and write lyrics as a team. He's always written the lyrics to the music, for better or worse: he’s the lyricist... and it's really an amalgamation of all those things. Socially, we tend to interact on political issues or so-kind of common ground and he knows how we feel about things,” John explained.

The lyrics, though, don’t take any overly political or social conscious overtones. “No, Richard tries to steer clear of that because he feels that just is too dating and it’s ‘also not what he’s about. He tends to speak more from personal experience and he tries not to preach. He also doesn’t believe in the kind of U2/Bono ethic of “We are all great and we will rule the world and it’s all wonderful and let's all join hands.” Because it means shit as far as he’s concerned. U2 end up being extremely rich and their fans end up being just their fans. I don’t think they change anybody’s life. It’s all this camaraderie thing of ‘we will be free. We will conquer. We will survive.” Conquer what? Survive what? He feels that it’s just bullshit,” John scoffed.

So the band would rather deal with things on a more personal, one-to-one level. “Yeah, If someone can get something out of our music, then that’s great. Richard doesn’t want to stand and make a big deal out of lyrics that happened to sound good when they come out of your mouth,” John concluded.

A week after our talk, the Furs embodied much of John's description in performance. Vince Ely provided a grounding for the other members, including an additional guitarist and keyboard player. John hovered near Vince's drum set throughout, while Richard and Tim used the area for a base for their  wanderings. Although they included many of their singles, ‘Heartbreak Beat was a noticeable omission. ‘Dumb Waiters’ flared rage, while ‘Pretty in Pink’ recaptured the ‘Sweet Jane’ riff that was muffled in their re-recorded version. ‘Love My Way’, half way into the set, finally reignited those fans who were hesitant to show their enthusiasm.

Richard furnished the visual focus: crouching low to peer into the crowd, spinning like a toreador, engaging in Jaggeresque calisthenics, and tugging at his layers of clothing. Tim started to prowl during ‘Entertain Me’, their third number. He stalked the stage like an assasssin seeking the perfect angle for the shot. The Psychedelic Furs achieved their American commercial breakthrough with ‘Love My Way’ during the “Second British Invasion” of the early ‘80's. Bands like Spandau Ballet and Heaven 17 of that same period faded once again into obscurity and their works maintained an unmistakable ring of that era. The Furs have rejuvenated a sound with Book of Days, so that they are at once true to their original incarnation and fresh enough for a new decade.