BAM Magazine 11/16/84

Richard Butler In The Modern World

The Psychedelic Furs Leader Stops Shouting

Though Richard Butler was inspired to take up music after a show that could only have happened in punk-era London - The Clash, Sex Pistols and Siouxsie & The Banshees all on one bill at the 100 Club- he misses neither the city nor the scene. For the last two years, the Psychedelic Furs leader has resided with his girlfriend and his brother/ bassist Tim in New York City's Soho neighborhood. "I just found London to be really dull," he explains. "I was doing exactly the same things everyday. And maybe that was my fault that I was in such a rut, finding the place boring and just getting drunk every day. It might just be me person- ally. I need to feel a little bit alien almost for a place to have an edge of excitement.”

Since setting up residency in the other birthplace of punk, Butler's music has moved in a softer direction from the days of surly, chaotic Furs classics like "Imitation Christ," "Pretty in Pink" and "Into You Like a Train." Taking a cue from their first American hit, "Love My Way," the current Furs LP, Mirror Moves, finds Butler nearly optimistic ("Heartbeat") and, when satirical ("Here Come Cowboys")) nonetheless willing to present his views in a commercially accessible format. Though the sound is somewhat sparser than its cello-laden predecessor, the Todd Rundgren-produced Forever Now, it's still some distance from the band's origins.

In fact, Butler seems amused that scenes like Orange County's hardcore contingency still exist: "Yeah, but it's like you still get teddy boys in England, and you still get mods," he says. "It's the same. There'll probably s be punks in ten years' time." Like many punk survivors, Butler feels the movement, though now dead and buried, was important in its time. "I know you've heard this many times about punk, but it really did shake the whole music industry up," he contends, "getting people out making music, making people realize that anybody can do it. I mean, I wouldn't have been in a band if it hadn't been for punk rock, and I certainly wouldn't have been signed if it hadn't been for punk rock"

While Butler risks alienating older fans by describing the first two Furs LPs as "almost unpleasant listening" because of their intensity, he adds "They were great for the time and I still see what's good about them. But the longer I do something, the better I feel I get at it."

One area where Butler sees improvement is in his vocal style. "I’m considering myself to be a singer," he announces. Could that mean vocal lessons? "Oh no, I wouldn't go that far," he laughs. "I think vocal lessons might take away something rather than add something. I mean, I don't want to be a singer like Dean Martin."

No problem there. While Butler has refined his singing to some extent, the hoarse, sarcasm-laden delivery that gives the Furs their charm and distinctiveness remains, though in some- what toned-down form. Likewise, his songwriting has taken on a new subtlety. Of "Here Come Cowboys," the current single with its allusions to American notions of leadership and morality, he comments, "It's subliminally political; it doesn't scream its message out. I don't like songs that do. I'm not a fan of The Alarm or The Clash."

Butler is a fan of Prince, having followed the artist since Dirty Mind, and The Police, a band he only grew to like with the release of Synchronicity Among lyricists, he speaks highly of "Paint It Black"-era Jagger and Chuck Berry. "The thing about Chuck Berry is he never considered himself a lyricist, which is the nicest kind of lyricist, I think, sometimes. As opposed to the obvious ones like Bob Dylan and Elvis Costello, who almost seem to write as if they're consciously writing something that's poetry."

Butler owes his first exposure to music to his parents. "Well, there's not really much to say about them. I mean, me old man's a Communist and has been since I was a kid, and my mother's an artist." The elder Mr. Butler is also a research chemist and record collector. "He used to play Bob Dylan when I was about nine or ten," recalls Butler. "Dylan, Woodie Guthrie, Hank Williams, and all the blues guys...I just took it all in. I'm grateful to him for playing Bob Dylan to me, definitely, and Hank Williams and Edith Piaf, you know. I'm not so keen on Burl Ives and Jim Reeves."

Nor is Butler particularly enamored with the inequities that inspired early Dylan and Guthrie songs. "Narrow- mindedness is the thing that gets me angriest of all, and the thing that I see most of the time," he comments. "T mean everywhere, it's unending. Sexism, prejudice against all kinds of people, from homosexuals through to all different races. You pull up to a truck stop and get out and you're immediately confronted with hostility.

"I'm as angry as I ever was, it's just, that you realize after a while that shouting isn't the best way to get your anger across," says Butler. "If you've got something to say, it's almost a responsibility to say it to a lot of people. And to get across to a lot of people, you've got to make a lot of people want to listen to you. It's as simple as that. It's almost compromising one part of your output for another.”